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ACPI Error - Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:19 pm

Santa Claus was very nice to me for Christmas, leaving a nice new Toshiba L505D-S5983 AMD Dual Core laptop under the tree. What he did not do was pre-load it with PCLOS-Gnome! I can't load it either. When I try to boot the 2009.2 Live CD it locks up just a few seconds after the boot menu. I have tried the normal mode, VideoSafeModeFBDev, VideoSafeModeVesa and Safeboot. In Safeboot mode, I am able to see an error message referring to ACPI but it loops so fast that I can not read it.

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby siamer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:36 pm

Hi.

1) Your CD is ok ? MD5 checked ?
2) if cd is ok than try without ACPI: on grub screen press (F2 - if I good remember) than will show You command line and there write "acpi=off" but it's strainge that in safe mode tried load acpi as well usually is off as i know :P

PS. send that Santa to me as well haha ;)

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:43 am

Yes, the CD is OK. I have used it to install on another computer. And I have already tried booting with acpi=off. ACPI-Off does the same thing as booting in normal Live CD mode, hanging just a few seconds after pressing enter at the boot menu.

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby siamer » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:43 am

did You try all of that as well: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=518 ??
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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:39 am

Yes, I did. I also tried disabling ACPI in the Bios, which is not a good thing to do at least on this laptop. When ACPI is turned off in the Bios, the cooling fans run only at the slow speed allowing the laptop to get very hot quickly.
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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:45 am

Additional Info: I was able to boot another CD that runs on Linux, but I have no idea what distro it uses. I used Acronis Disk Director 10 to resize the partition to make space for the PCLOS dual boot, but had to use Safemode. Booting normally with the Acronis CD I got an error saying that it did not detect a hard drive.Booting in Safemode I was able to make the partition changes without any problems.

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby Jag » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:39 am

Hi n8oay
On my friend's new laptop'Lenovo G550',I was able to boot from my remastered PCLOS Gnome DVD only in 'VESA' mode.Installed but was not able to have proper screen res [1366X768] even after assigning it.
Tried other 6-7 live distros .
Only Sabayon 5 booted nicely & got installed successfully too.
Sabayon 5 was with later kernel 2.6.31 [hope I remember the number correctly],
while we have 2.6.28 yet with PCLOS. Can this be the reason?
I am not much experienced Linux user but am curious,so put up my observations.
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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby siamer » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:10 pm

yes kernel can be the reason i think but we don't have any version of pclos with kernel 2.6.32.2 (this kernel is in testing repo and working preaty good)... if You have some second computer than install pclos + download kernel 2.6.32.2 and make remaster and than try on Your new laptop that's only idea what i have now... :?: I think at few months will be some new version pclinuxos 2010 with new kernel (propobly)...

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:50 pm

It probably is a kernel issue. I tried the KDE PCLinuxOS 2009.2 and had the same problem. Then I started searching elsewhere and found the same problem with the same laptop on the Ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305576 and then found this http://www.mail-archive.com/acpi-bugzilla@lists.sourceforge.net/msg27765.html I don't have a clue about how to make a Live CD so I will leave trying a newer kernal up to the PCLOS development team. If anyone else can make a Live CD for me with the newer kernel and post it someplace where I can download it, I will try it and report back with results.

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby HarzVieh » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:58 am

I don't have a clue about how to make a Live CD

Well.. it's not that difficult. Just be sure you have enough space, and do not change the destination path, then it will be created in "File system". You can't delete it for some reason, and normally if you install some additional progs it will be bigger than 700 mb, so I burn it on an DVD. Not all burn programs can burn an DVD ISO, K3B probably will do it, I assume.. :? If the window comes for additional CLI input, let it just blank.. and you can check the "integrate the MD5 sum in the iso" box, then you can do "check the media" by boot, with your remaster.. :|
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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby azziam » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:06 pm

HarzVieh wrote:
I don't have a clue about how to make a Live CD

Well.. it's not that difficult. Just be sure you have enough space, and do not change the destination path, then it will be created in "File system". You can't delete it for some reason, and normally if you install some additional progs it will be bigger than 700 mb, so I burn it on an DVD. Not all burn programs can burn an DVD ISO, K3B probably will do it, I assume.. :? If the window comes for additional CLI input, let it just blank.. and you can check the "integrate the MD5 sum in the iso" box, then you can do "check the media" by boot, with your remaster.. :|


I've burned several DVD-RWs with Brasero. I've had some failures too but I'm not sure what that was about. I can't add anything about making remasters since I have yet to try it.
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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop SOLVED FOR ME

Postby joanmc » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:34 pm

Oh boy, do you ever have my sympathy!!! I've been dealing with this for 4 months since purchasing my new VAIO laptop. Initially, when I was able to use the Live CD of Mint but not PCLOS-Gnome, it was thought it was because a newer kernel version was in Mint. However, I tried some other distros with the newer kernel that didn't work. When the new Zen-mini came out, I decided to try it. To my surprise it worked yet didn't have the new kernel that Mint did. When Melodie brought out her 'Old World' Zen version, I decided to give that a try and it also worked. See http://linuxgator.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2178 . What I discovered was that the kernel version didn't seem to be the issue rather the Gnome version was the difference. When I found the posting referring to the 2010 PCLOS-Gnome iso URL, I quickly downloaded it and tried it out. Unfortunately, for some reason the Live CD is unable to mount the CD partway into the boot process on my laptop so that hasn't worked. I'm now trying to successfully create a Live CD on a USB drive but have yet to succeed. Meanwhile, the iso works fine on other computers. I think I'll try downloading the iso again and try the USB drive using unetbootin once more...... So give Melodie's version of Zen a try & see if that works for you.

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n8oay wrote:It probably is a kernel issue. I tried the KDE PCLinuxOS 2009.2 and had the same problem. Then I started searching elsewhere and found the same problem with the same laptop on the Ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305576 and then found this http://www.mail-archive.com/acpi-bugzilla@lists.sourceforge.net/msg27765.html I don't have a clue about how to make a Live CD so I will leave trying a newer kernal up to the PCLOS development team. If anyone else can make a Live CD for me with the newer kernel and post it someplace where I can download it, I will try it and report back with results.

Thanks for the help!
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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:59 pm

Hi, Joan. I read through your problems on the "When's The Next ISO?" thread, but did not think to try Melodie's remaster. In my case, I don't think Gnome is the culprit because I also could not get the KDE version of PCLOS 2009.2 to boot. I think my problem with the new laptop is the ACPI. I will download Melodie's version of Zen, and I think I will try to older distros that I still have (I did a lot of distro surfing before I stuck with PCLOS). I will let you know what happens.

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby n8oay » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:09 pm

Joan, I may have just hit on something...I tried a couple really old distros, one was Knoppix 5. It does not load a splash screen, so I was able to read everything it does. It stopped loading in about the same amount of time as the other distros that I have tried, displaying this:

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Welcome to the KNOPPIX live GNU/Linux on DVD!

Running Linux Kernel 2.6.19.
Total Memory available: 2851852kb. Memory free: 2839000kb.
Scanning for USB/Firewire devices...Done.
Can't find KNOPPIX file system, sorry.
Dropping you to a (very limited) shell.
Press reset button to quit.

Additional built in commands available:
   cat   mount   umount
   inamod   rmmod   lsmod

knoppix#


I am thinking my problem might be the SATA DVD drive. I am going to try a couple things to see if they work. I just started a download of the Sabayon AMD 64 bit DVD on the off the wall shot that it might work with the SATA DVD drive (my other computers all have IDE DVD and hard drives). If it does not, I will borrow a USB external DVD drive and try it.

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Re: Live CD will not boot on new laptop

Postby joanmc » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:50 am

Well, here's interesting news. I downloaded the 2010 iso again and burned a CD instead of a DVD. Tried it on my desktop (the previous one worked on it) with no problem. Hmmmmm......ok let's try it on the laptop - which also has a SATA DVD-Blu Ray drive. Booted up the laptop and it automatically reverts to verbose when there's an error and I got the same error. Instead of smashing the CD as I felt like doing :roll: I decided to reboot and try the SATA probe (with the previous DVD we tried every single boot option :cry: ). Imagine my shock when I suddenly was all the way to the gui login!! So I played around a bit with the LiveCD then decided to 'strike while the iron was hot' and do the install. Well, it's installed and running. I can't seem to get my wireless recognized which I've never had a problem with Zen or Melodie's Zen Old World so I'll need to tackle that next. So for whatever reason, on a CD it works but not on a DVD.......go figure :?

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