[A. G. Olphart]

After successfully installing from a live CD (burned Sept 3rd), 400 Mb+ worth of upgrades borked the system. It wouldn't reboot.. It seems that a new NVIDIA driver package had been installed which didn't like my 6200A twinview card.
At this point, I've reformatted my partitions, reinstalled from the same live CD (works fine). and Synaptic isn't calling for an NVIDIA upgrade.

So how does one do a massive upgrade and avoid this sort of thing? Is there any way of knowing ahead of time if there will be trouble, and who the troublemakers will be? Any sequence for doing the upgrades in segments?

Should I 'pin' my current video driver? (I've heard the term, and can likely figure out how to do it if necessary, but thought that rolling releases were supposed to roll along).

Thanks...

A. G.

[HarzVieh]

You can search the net about you graphic card compatibility with Linux.. what is this twin-view? Almost all modern cards have two outputs now, so you can connect two monitors on them..

[A. G. Olphart]

Guess the GeForce 6200A is a semi modern card; being able to attach two monitors was still special back then.

NVIDIA does Linux, and about 4 days ago there was a specific driver listed on their board for the 6200A; now just one for the A and LE version of the card. (Didn't snag the specific driver as the GURUs say not to import outside packages).

The driver on my live CD works; my NOOB guess is that one of the zillion dependencies in the subsequent upgrades called in the wrong driver.

Thanks for your reply.


A. G.

[JNibski]

The Nvidia card driver you mentioned is already in pclos - it worked did'nt it? what are you trying to "do" with it? If it works - it works. no need to fool with "updated drivers"....

Most of the"older" Nvidia drivers are already included in GNOME 2010.07....

-are you sure you have the latest CD version of PCLOS gnome? What 'REPO" are you using?

This is taken from wiki .....

With just 4 pixel pipelines, the 6200 series forms Nvidia's value/budget (low-end or entry level) product. The 6200 omits memory compression and SLI support, but otherwise offers similar rendering features as the 6600s. The later 6200 boards were based on the NV44 core (s), which is the final production silicon for the 6200 series.

However, at introduction, production silicon was not yet ready. Nvidia fulfilled 6200 orders by shipping binned/rejected 6600 series cores (NV43V). The rejects were factory modified to disable four-pixel pipelines, thereby converting the native 6600 product into a 6200 product. Some users were able to "unlock" early 6200 boards through a software utility (effectively converting the 6200 back into a 6600 with the complete set of eight pixel pipelines total) if they owned boards with an NV43 A2 or earlier revision of the core. Thus, not all NV43-based 6200 boards could successfully be unlocked (specifically, those with a core revision of A4 or higher), and as soon as NV44 production silicon became available, Nvidia discontinued shipments of downgraded NV43V cores.

Read thru this to get an idea of your scenario..... Seems different "BRANDS" have some variables with the chipset.

Is your "card" a : PCI. AGP, onboard, pci express, or other? is your computer a LAPTOP?

-Open a terminal (as root) , and type in : lshw and post the result here....for analysis....

JN

[sarcastic_bastard]

Can't see why the upgrade would kill things. You did a refresh first, before running upgrade , yes? Selective upgrading is NOT advised.

[A. G. Olphart]

JNibski, live CD is 2010.7; it ran fine.
Don't recall which repo I was hooked into- that disappeared along with everything else.
Yup, cheap video card with TV out (in my price range, as was the $25 used motherboard & 2.8 GHz P4).

Can't see why the upgrade would kill things. You did a refresh first, before running upgrade , yes? Selective upgrading is NOT advised.

Refreshed and happily pushed the 'GO' button. Guess I'll try again and see if the first try is grist for the 'Journal of Irreproducible Results'.

Being a lazy Olphart, that's the sort of thing I do.


Thanks again,
A. G.

[HarzVieh]

I do have Nvidia card on board here, GeForce 6150 SE, and I do not remember installing the driver like I did in the past, but it is installed now..(Entry in System/Preferences/Nvidia Display Settings) so I assume it is done by update of the system.. so if your card do not have proper 3D support, update will end like this: no boot.. that's why I suggest you look on the net about your card, because sometimes you do have 2D functions, so live CD will work and you can surf the net, but if you do not have 3D, then you can't have something like Google Earth for example..

[A. G. Olphart]

HarzVieh et al, your assistance is appreciated.

A second install, this time with a 622Mb update , proved successful.
Presumably I blew it somewhere on the first try.
(But there is a teensy chance that the intervening code changes were the cure).

A. G.

[fredalope]

Hi I have this problem also. I did a fresh install of PClinuxOS gnome 2010 on a Dell 8200 P4 2.87hz, 512 MB RDram, Ati 7000 64MB and 2 hard drives 1 120GB and the other 40GB both pata. I logged into the system fine and setup wlan cisco wmp 600 n. I opened a console and entered apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and it states 744MB update so I start it. 4 hours later I come back to the PC and the update is almost finished and it bonks out to tty1. I try to startx but it fails to load. I do a system halt and reboot. When it tries to load it freezes at the splash screen. I tried to reinstall 4 times and they all failed after update. Here is some system data.

Lspci
output
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset Host Bridge (MCH) (rev 04)

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82850 850 (Tehama) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 04)

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 04)

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 04)

00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 04)

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 04)

00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 04)

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04)

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]

02:08.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 44)

02:08.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 05)

02:09.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 6c)

02:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2800 802.11n PCI

fdisk -l output
Disk /dev/sdb: 40.0 GB, 40027029504 bytes

255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4866 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Disk identifier: 0x0009fa1b



Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/sdb1 * 1 1568 12594928+ 83 Linux

/dev/sdb2 1569 4866 26491185 5 Extended

/dev/sdb5 1569 1944 3020188+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

/dev/sdb6 1945 4866 23470933+ 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes

255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Disk identifier: 0x00006ebd

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/sda1 * 1 14592 117210208+ 7 HPFS/NTFS



Disk /dev/sdc: 4022 MB, 4022337536 bytes

255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 489 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Disk identifier: 0x000ba77e



Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/sdc1 1 489 3927861 6 FAT16



Disk /dev/sdd: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes

255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders

Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Disk identifier: 0xc4d2f4cc



Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System

/dev/sdd1 1 30401 244196001 7 HPFS/NTFS

Thanks for any help.

[sarcastic_bastard]

What repository are you trying to update from?

[HarzVieh]

Ati 7000 64MB

I did experimental install on my second PC on an external HDD on my second PC, and I have the same like you: all things worked until I did full update.. then the PC just hang until I log in with my root password and configure new my Radeon graphic card, Asus EAH4350 in some environment (is it X ) I would compare with DOS.. and choose proprietary driver..

I don't know why the update do change video card driver, but this is probably the problem, try use save boot option next time you install the OS..

[lightning slinger]

Ati 7000 64MB

I had big problems with this Radeon card in the past in both 32MB and 64MB versions with my Pentium lll-S box. I was recommended to change to NVidia FX5200, which I now have in both my Gnome boxes. The difference is overall performance of the whole system is vastly superior over the ATI.

[slax]

I would make a suggestion to you...
If you can please wait a few days more so the new release is ready... (maybe up to a week...)

That way you'll have the updated iso, and hopefully no problems

[username]

I'm currently using Gnome 2.32.0.
What will the new version number be?

[slax]

I'm currently using Gnome 2.32.0.
What will the new version number be?

that one, this is the rolling release distro, remember?