RayRoy wrote:I doubt if any of my many imorovement suggestions will be taken seriously
by devs, because you all have branded me a pariah, here, since day-one.
Mate, that is an unfair, and untrue statement. You seem to have had a bit of a run-in with a few people on here, and that's between you and them,. If you ever feel it's getting too personal , report it to be looked at. But claiming we have "all" branded you a pariah, at any time, let alone "since day one", is not doing you any favours.
Please stick to the facts. You'll get better results.
As for the devs and dialup, as I stated earlier, they likely don't use it, not many here indicate they do. In the early days of this place, I was one of them, and it was awkward, but one of the other members kindly offered to send me a disc to use, and I worked out the dialup situation myself at the time. Forget exactly how I resolved it, but I got it going for me.
I understand all too well how frustrating it is, and can be. But, honestly, the likelyhood that the people working on the distro are not using dialup, and have no access to it, is quite high, and entirely understandable. It's just plain logical. Our devs do listen, and do care, but lacking first-hand access to the issue, it's a bit hard to shoot in the dark. Please keep in mind, there really are not that many folk who work as devs on the Gnome end of things (at least, last time I was aware), most of the effort is on the KDE end, and our guys do a fantastic job with the limited resources they have, and doing it in their spare time, etc. I don't think you have any idea just how poorly the Gnome apps and desktop were kept until these guys (and others) stepped up to the plate. They do good work with limited resources. Actually, I take that back. They do GREAT work.
They can only work with what they have, and can know. You raise some good and valid points regarding the dialup situation, and I feel confident they are taken on board, but if they don't have dialup, then it's rather difficult for them to test this stuff. It's all a work in progress, and for the most part things are fine, but there are little nuances that need looking at and tending to, and I'm confident things will be dealt with as able, time permitting, bu considering how much needs to be looked after, and restrained time and resources of our people, some will be lower on the ladder than others. *shrug* Inconvenient for some? Sure. But then, what are the options?
All things considered, our people do a wonderful job, and I'm sure most everyone here appreciates their efforts. All constructive criticisms are listen to, all valid points noted, and everything is taken into consideration, but there are limitations on what can be done, and when. Doesn't mean you're being ignored. Doesn't mean they are able to deal with every single thing as soon as liked either, or in some cases, at all, as they've no first-hand experience with it.
As for people you find yourself having friction with, I seriously doubt it's "everyone". And also remember, it's a text-based environment, sometime what you do and say will come across in an entirely different manner to which you intended it to when you typed it out. You may read a different meaning into something "said", and vice versa. But my golden rule here, is try and get along, we only have each other.
Cheers.
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