[Dragynn]

Hay Dragynn, whats up with the lack of wallpapers? I would give up a couple of mb for a few wallpapers in the download.

I will be back to bust your chops later!

Oops

Trying to keep it as mini as possible amigo, I really wanted to add one of the wallpapers you posted on this thread, but I thought that might be a little narcissistic

I figure everybody has their own taste in wallpaper, and will likely change it after a few days (if not a few minutes), so I never put more than one on my iso's.

BTW, saw your post about VB kernel, I have never used VB, so don't have any experience with it, but what does intrigue me, is concepts for new iso's, maybe make one with a focus on VB and development?

OK, try this then.


zen_11-11_dark_102 by The Kona Express, on Flickr

f'ing LOVE it amigo! Going to make the next plus-size iso soon off the 11.11, I would add this to that iso with your permission, need a 1600x1200 at least, widescreen size even better, (keep it sane size-wise, try for 350k or less if it doesn't hurt viewable resolution). A grungy GDM to go with it might be cool too if you ever think about doing a whole theming thing, plymouth etc.

I think the name for the plus-size iso should be 11.11.11

[konaexpress]

If I do some stuff in 1600X1200, will Zen shrink it for other sizes so I only have to do one version? Sorry for asking this, I'm still not very good with INk and Photoshop.

I would like to get into doing the GDM(?) and splash screens but I haven't found a clear tutorial on what the hell I am supposed to do yet. Everything I have found expects me to be a d@mm programmer. I can find the screen resolutions but the splash screens move so I am not sure on what software to use. Do I make a bunch of screens and it will animate or do I have to make a .mov file or what?

[konaexpress]

On a side note, I can find some "Grunge" backgrounds and doctor them up but the grunge feel isn't what I would associate with Zen. Have you thought of naming your remaster something else so that it is not confused with the official Zen?

[Dragynn]

Have you thought of naming your remaster something else so that it is not confused with the official Zen?

Again, that would imply that it was "mine", a fork, or some other deal, I want it to be clear as possible that this is a user-remaster, I have added that info everywhere it's possible to add it, even in the titles of threads, and everything in this section is about re-masters to start with, if folks are still confused, i'm afraid there's not much more I can do....

And being that Zen (and Gnome) is not, and has not, been listed on the main pclinuxos site for some time, at the moment pretty much everything we are doing over here is not "official".

It's not really a big deal, there are user editions all over the place, Linuxera has at least 5 for E-17, Hootiegibbon has several, smurfslover put out a few, there's an astronomy edition...this how linux grows, Puppy linux probably has 500 user editions over the last few years.

[Dragynn]

If I do some stuff in 1600X1200, will Zen shrink it for other sizes so I only have to do one version? Sorry for asking this, I'm still not very good with INk and Photoshop.

I would like to get into doing the GDM(?) and splash screens but I haven't found a clear tutorial on what the hell I am supposed to do yet. Everything I have found expects me to be a d@mm programmer. I can find the screen resolutions but the splash screens move so I am not sure on what software to use. Do I make a bunch of screens and it will animate or do I have to make a .mov file or what?

Zen won't shrink the image, the wallpaper utility in gnome offers several different configs for re-sizing, users will adjust to suit themselves, so yep, just one big one will do.

Best way to see how the system works, is open up folders and see, take a look in /usr/share/gdm to see what the images look like, you can get by with just making the background and leaving the login window alone if it suits you. Check the properties on the image and duplicate them in yours, make sure and strip metadata.

Plymouth does involve animation, but doesn't have to. You can view it's images in /usr/share/plymouth, and also the scripts that run animation if you're feeling froggy , Again, it's possible just to substitute the background, a new initrd will have to be run, but i can show you how to do that.

Use "Save for web" in Photoshop, it allows for finer control of file size, and previews any adjustments you make so you can view closely and see where resolution starts to suffer when you are reducing size.

[konaexpress]

Have you thought of naming your remaster something else so that it is not confused with the official Zen?

Again, that would imply that it was "mine", a fork, or some other deal, I want it to be clear as possible that this is a user-remaster, I have added that info everywhere it's possible to add it, even in the titles of threads, and everything in this section is about re-masters to start with, if folks are still confused, i'm afraid there's not much more I can do....

And being that Zen (and Gnome) is not, and has not, been listed on the main pclinuxos site for some time, at the moment pretty much everything we are doing over here is not "official".

It's not really a big deal, there are user editions all over the place, Linuxera has at least 5 for E-17, Hootiegibbon has several, smurfslover put out a few, there's an astronomy edition...this how linux grows, Puppy linux probably has 500 user editions over the last few years.

Is this why Zen is way out here by itself, kinda forgotten?

Wonder if we could make a netbook version of Zen instead of LXDE like I was thinking. I was wanting something fast, not a fork mind you but Gnome 3 is going to be too bulky for this.

[Dragynn]

I bet this Zen will run on a netbook with ease, i've got various versions of reecent re-masters running on a pair of old Pentium 3 laptops, both more than a decade old, the oldest one is a PIII mobile at 650 mhz, with 256 mb of old ram, i don't think it's even DDR and 4 mb shared video. You can tweak Zen down to run less than 100 mb of ram at idle.

[konaexpress]

I hope no one shoots me for this but I would love to put your version of zen on top of a Puppy. Wow that would be fast. I have been playing with them and WOW! PCLOS is way more stable so it is MY DISTRO that WILL live on my laptop but Puppy is a fun and weird little thing to play with. Great idea but can those guys junk up a distro, whoowee!

[Dragynn]

I hope no one shoots me for this but I would love to put your version of zen on top of a Puppy. Wow that would be fast. I have been playing with them and WOW! PCLOS is way more stable so it is MY DISTRO that WILL live on my laptop but Puppy is a fun and weird little thing to play with. Great idea but can those guys junk up a distro, whoowee!

That's not out of the question, having checked in recently after not visiting them for a while, I was excited to see all the gtk and gnome apps they had ported to Puppy, I think you can even install gnome panel now, they got mplayer and the gnome-mplayer gui, they got a cool cut down version of VLC too i'm anxious to try and hopeful that someone will help me port to Zen/PCLOS.

[konaexpress]

This would be interesting to show the puppylvers what a true clean distro looks like.

[Dragynn]

Just re-ran a new iso, cut out some more un-needed junk thanks to Neal Brooks the LXDE dev on the main forum 338.4 mb and all bugs fixed (that I know of ), and updated fully as of yesterday 10-26-2011.

need CD-R's, my old box is a curmudgeon when it comes to booting from USB sticks. sorry, can't upload until I burn one and test the install even though it's almost identical to the first one.


Still thinking about an office version...but I can't imagine anyone needing it unless they ran a small business and nobody has ever mentioned it, probably have to be DVD size to really make it plug-and-play without having to hit Synaptic (i.e. all of task-printing to insure printing OOTB, and that's huge).

Anybody here ever try the Instantbird chat client?

[konaexpress]

Yea, Neal does some good work. I love his LXDE distro!

[konaexpress]

Have you thought of naming your remaster something else so that it is not confused with the official Zen?

Again, that would imply that it was "mine", a fork, or some other deal, I want it to be clear as possible that this is a user-remaster, I have added that info everywhere it's possible to add it, even in the titles of threads, and everything in this section is about re-masters to start with, if folks are still confused, i'm afraid there's not much more I can do....

And being that Zen (and Gnome) is not, and has not, been listed on the main pclinuxos site for some time, at the moment pretty much everything we are doing over here is not "official".

It's not really a big deal, there are user editions all over the place, Linuxera has at least 5 for E-17, Hootiegibbon has several, smurfslover put out a few, there's an astronomy edition...this how linux grows, Puppy linux probably has 500 user editions over the last few years.

OK, I see your point. I was just thinking of naming it like Mel does with bonsai and how all the E17 ones have their own name. NOT a fork but a user version so that in future posts we do not get it mixed up with ZEN or ZEN-Mini. It was just a thought because I already made that mistake and got shot at in the big forums for thinking that your version was the new ZEN-Mini a couple of months ago. It's all good in my book.

[Dragynn]

New version uploaded! Links in first post updated.

[YeOldeFarte]

Greetings! I'm posting from your remaster of zen mini. The only problem I had was that wvdial needs pppd which was removed. Mobile broadband needs a dialer and wvdial needs pppd. I removed it from another version of PcLinux to make this post.
Otherwise no problems.
Thanks for the effort.