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Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:05 pm

Post problems and issues with Gnome MMXII here. Have any preferences? Let us know.

Known issues:
Gtkam won't start.
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:31 pm

A few more issues: :oops:

Sound settings wont stick

Printer configuration

task-printing and task-x11 need to be installed. Will be included in next release.

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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby sarcastic_bastard » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:58 am

Hello again. :)

Very nice job on this, seems to be lacking a lot of the "issues" I've been having in the past, Totem works, Compiz is behaving, and everything seems nice and zippy. Excellent. Now, if could just figure out how to stop Nautilus opening up with hidden files showing all the damn time... :)
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:25 pm

SB
Nautilus can be a royal PITA sometimes. I use Ctrl+H (or the View menu check box) to toggle 'show hidden' on and off, but it's only temporary. To make it permanent, one way or the other, you have to set it in System->Preferences->File Management / Views tab->Show hidden and backup files [(un)check]
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby sarcastic_bastard » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:26 pm

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd already set it to that in nautilus's own prefs. Went to follow your advice, but was reminded that my desktop background had gone black and unclickable since last time i logged out. I have the top and botom bar on screen, but in between, it's useless. And, now Nautilus refuses to open. *sigh* It tries, get the swirly looking like it is, then nothing. Try running nautilus from Terminal, and :

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[david@david-desktop ~]$ nautilus

(nautilus:4888): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.


And I was so enjoying having a usable desktop too. :(

I really don't get it, PCLOS is always the most responsive desktop, but at least with me, it seems to develop weird probs after a day or 2, and ruin my fun. Other run like tar, but then i don't seem to get this. :/

Sorry to be a downer, but depression, generally being unwell, and things keeping going wrong is just not making my weekend. I was so hoping for a better time. *sigh*



Might do a reinstall if I can't sort this out soon, and hope for the best. So damn frustrating, and I hate wasting my weekends.
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:13 am

SB
Please don't do anything rash. We don't want you jumping out of any windows. :D

I think the reason for a black desktop (one that seems dead) is due to nautilus not autostarting when you login, which you already know. If yours went south, I can't understand why :?:

Try this in a root terminal
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cp /usr/share/applications/nautilus.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/

Then logout and back in again.
Lemme know what happens.
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby sarcastic_bastard » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:54 am

Did as you advised, logged back in, and background is still black and useless. Half the time i log in now it tries to spawn endless Nautilus session along the bottom panel. Whether or not it does this, it still ( i forgot to mention last time) throws a fit when i try to log out, claiming that Nautilus isn't responding, which seems to suggest it's "running", just not running. :/

WTF does this crud keep happening to me? Every single PCLOS install over the last several months has given minor grief in one way or another. Yet others seem to be loving it. *cries*
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:08 pm

It's not just you SB. I find it happening on other distros when I google it. There are bug reports all over the place, but no solutions. I had similar problems last month. Never did figure it out. It just went away after a time.

You could try adding a new user to give you fresh config files in /home? I really don't have a clue. It was working good. Some config file must have got corrupted -- but which one??? Did you install task-x11?
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby sarcastic_bastard » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:15 am

Logged out and back in as root, and same happening there. Odd. :/
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:51 am

It might save you a lot of time and headache to just save what you need (if you can) and re-install. Better yet, if you have extra room for more partitions, do a parallel install so you can transfer what you want to keep.
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby knome » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:15 pm

I'd try the following...

1. Reinstall nautilus.

2. Try launching nautilus --no-desktop or plain nautilus from another desktop session (icewm, etc.) if available in MMXII. If it runs OK this may point to a problem with something running in Gnome.

3. Try booting with no external devices plugged in.
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby don_crissti » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:54 pm

SB,

Check whether Nautilus is running and kill it before trying to restart it from terminal:
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pidof nautilus

shoud return its PID if already running (e.g. 1411)... then kill the process:
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kill 1411

Or
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pgrep nautilus
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pkill nautilus

only then try:
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nautilus --no-desktop

and post the output if it still fails...
Also, post your ~.xsession-errors
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby sarcastic_bastard » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:33 am

Was booted into Win7 the last day or so (testing windows-only work apps), booted back into PCLOS, and suddenly my desktop is back. *scratch head* Not sure what i did. But, now my thumbnailing is broken. Yeah, too busy for this. Saved .mozilla and .thunderbird profiles , booted from USB, and wiped and re-installed, copying back over the profiles. Updated, and set up my NFS shares again to my server. SO far so good.

Thanks for listening, and being patient guys. I really don't have the energy I used to, and dealing with this stuff can be exhausting these days, let alone being pushed to find a new place to move quick smart (a**hole owners want to demolish it and build a new one). So, my thanks, and I shall hold you up no more.

PS. One small thing, I found that if Arista is installed, it causes errors when trying launch certain things. For example, went to open System>Preferences>File Management, and it kept crashing. Opened in terminal, and got
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[david@david-desktop ~]$ nautilus-file-management-properties
ImportError: No module named gi.repository.Nautilus

(nautilus-file-management-properties:25517): Nautilus-Python-WARNING **: nautilus_python_init_python failed
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions/arista-nautilus.py", line 38, in <module>
    import nautilus
ImportError: No module named nautilus


I uninstall Arista, and the error vanishes.

Just a heads up for someone to check out. Cheers. :)
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:23 pm

There are some packages that need more testing. Arista doesn't work here either. VLC has problems. Shutter was another, but it got fixed recently.
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Re: Problems with Gnome MMXII

Postby ongoto » Thu May 03, 2012 6:32 pm

RE: orca

Unable to get orca to work. If it starts at all it soon hangs and freezes the desktop. Tried upgrading to version 2.32.1, but still no good. Error messages indicate something wrong with python not being able to register something.

As an FYI, avoid using orca for now.
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