[satuser083]

If I start orca via Applications -> More Applications -> Accessibility (the command is orca --replace I think ) it starts, thinks for a while and then crashes. If I start it in a terminal (command orca) it starts the Preferences-window after the following error-messages

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** WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
** WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
** WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'WnckWindowState' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
** WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'WnckWindowActions' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
** WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'WnckWindowMoveResizeMask' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'


I imagine that these messages are significant, because the Preferences definitely don't work as one would expect.

Has anyone else had this problem and solved it? Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks.

I'm using gnome-mmxii, BTW.

[ongoto]

There is definitely something wrong. When starting orca here, it tries then crashes and causes python to hang. The desktop freezes ( no mouse or keyboard response ). Have to kill python from a tty. Haven't found a fix but at-spi seems to be the culprit.

Try orca --debug in a terminal. There will be a file named debug<date>.out in your current directory. Maybe you can get something from that.

[satuser083]

There is definitely something wrong. When starting orca here, it tries then crashes and causes python to hang. The desktop freezes ( no mouse or keyboard response ). Have to kill python from a tty. Haven't found a fix but at-spi seems to be the culprit.

Try orca --debug in a terminal. There will be a file named debug<date>.out in your current directory. Maybe you can get something from that.

Thanks for the tip, the result is:

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Trying to use speech server factory: orca.gnomespeechfactory
Shutting down and exiting due to signal = 2
Current stack is:

  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1747, in main
    init(pyatspi.Registry)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1274, in init
    loadUserSettings()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1027, in loadUserSettings
    speech.init()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/speech.py", line 120, in init
    settings.speechServerInfo)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/speech.py", line 108, in _initSpeechServer
    _speechserver = factory.SpeechServer.getSpeechServer(speechServerInfo)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py", line 297, in getSpeechServer
    server = SpeechServer.__createServer(gserver.iid)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py", line 224, in __createServer
    driver = SpeechServer.__activateDriver(iid)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py", line 203, in __activateDriver
    False)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyatspi/accessible.py", line 378, in __new__
    def __new__(cls):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1399, in shutdownOnSignal
    debug.printStack(debug.LEVEL_ALL)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/debug.py", line 136, in printStack
    traceback.print_stack(None, 100, debugFile)

Shutting down and exiting due to signal = 1
Current stack is:

  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1747, in main
    init(pyatspi.Registry)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1274, in init
    loadUserSettings()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1027, in loadUserSettings
    speech.init()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/speech.py", line 120, in init
    settings.speechServerInfo)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/speech.py", line 108, in _initSpeechServer
    _speechserver = factory.SpeechServer.getSpeechServer(speechServerInfo)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py", line 297, in getSpeechServer
    server = SpeechServer.__createServer(gserver.iid)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py", line 224, in __createServer
    driver = SpeechServer.__activateDriver(iid)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py", line 203, in __activateDriver
    False)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyatspi/accessible.py", line 378, in __new__
    def __new__(cls):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1399, in shutdownOnSignal
    debug.printStack(debug.LEVEL_ALL)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/debug.py", line 136, in printStack
    traceback.print_stack(None, 100, debugFile)


It means nothing to me.

I'll do a bit more web-searching next week and will get back.

Thanks, once again

[ongoto]

My output was a little different than yours.

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Trying to use speech server factory: orca.gnomespeechfactory
Using speech server factory: orca.gnomespeechfactory
Speech module has been initialized.
Magnification module has NOT been initialized.
SPEECH OUTPUT: 'Welcome to Orca.'
BRAILLE LINE:  'Welcome to Orca.'
     VISIBLE:  'Welcome to Orca.', cursor=0
NEW SCRIPT: default (module=orca.default)
ACTIVE SCRIPT: default (module=orca.default) (reason=activate)
Script.getKnownApplications...
---------> QUEUEING EVENT object:children-changed:remove
---------> QUEUEING EVENT object:children-changed:remove
---------> QUEUEING EVENT object:children-changed:remove
TIMEOUT: something has hung.  Aborting.

  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1777, in main
    start(pyatspi.Registry) # waits until we stop the registry
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1313, in start
    _switchToPresentationManager(0) # focus_tracking_presenter
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 158, in _switchToPresentationManager
    _PRESENTATION_MANAGERS[_currentPresentationManager].activate()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/focus_tracking_presenter.py", line 1091, in activate
    win = orca_state.activeScript.findActiveWindow()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/default.py", line 7763, in findActiveWindow
    apps = self.getKnownApplications()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/default.py", line 7498, in getKnownApplications
    pyatspi.Registry.getDesktop(0))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyatspi/accessible.py", line 432, in __iter__
    yield self.getChildAtIndex(i)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyatspi/accessible.py", line 232, in _inner
    return func(self, *args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyatspi/accessible.py", line 378, in __new__
    def __new__(cls):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/orca.py", line 1336, in timeout
    debug.printStack(debug.LEVEL_ALL)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/orca/debug.py", line 136, in printStack
    traceback.print_stack(None, 100, debugFile)


I have installed

speex
festival
python-speechd
espeak

I have heard "welcome to orca" after several starts and restarts of orca, but it eventually crashes and hangs.

[ongoto]

Done a little more investigating.
From what I gather Orca gets rebuilt each time Gnome receives an upgrade. In short, they are a matching set. As long as Gnome stays the same everything should work.
In a rolling release nothing stays the same very long.

Someone who really needs the benefits of Orca should probably use a static distro such as Centos6.

[satuser083]

That's a shame, because it severely limits orca's application prospects. Will look at the possibility of using Centos, however; perhaps that's the answer.

Many thanks for your help .