[raveyd]

I just discovered something. I have been struggling to install remasters - they all fail at the bootloader installation. Tonight instead of installing GRUB I tried LILO. It worked.

Did you know about that?

[don_crissti]

raveyd,

I'd appreciate some info. Which version of PCLOS have you remastered and noticed bootloader installation failure during the install ?

[raveyd]

I've done it with PCLOS Gnome-Lite 2007. About to try it with mini 2008 iso as well. Will post back tomorrow with the result.

[raveyd]

Sorry - let me explain.

I have the GRUB bootloader installation problems with ANY remaster on any version of PCLOS, after I upgrade (the problem is not due to module-init-tools or mklivecd it's something else).

I tested LILO on Gnome-Lite 2007 and it worked.

[don_crissti]

Please do the following: after you boot the remastered mini start the install process like this:
Open a terminal and as root do

/usr/sbin/draklive-install

This will start the installer but you will be able to see in the terminal what happens... Post the output . So that we see at least what kind of error are you getting there and maybe we can figure out why GRUB installation failed.

You can also try another thing: of course that means you have to reboot and see if the install worked. If it didn't use the livecd again and let me know if this works:
When at the GRUB install screen (during the installation of your remaster) choose GRUB Text Menu.

[raveyd]

If I use GRUB with text menu that also seems to work (at least in a virtual machine). Interesting. I'll try it "for real" as well. So the only thing which doesn't seem to work is GRUB with graphics.

By the way - i'm not complaining about this stuff, just sharing info on something I noticed which I thought was interesting. I'm aware you guys have some problems with this stuff and I hope the info is helping.

So to recap what I know:
1. My issue with remastering is not due to mklivecd version or module-init-tools version.
2. Original minime remasters OK before upgrades. Once I upgrade, remasters will not install properly if I select GRUB with graphical menu during the install.
3. If I select GRUB with text menu or LILO with text menu, then the installation works fine (at least in a virtual machine - usually a good indication of "reality" to me). It works even after upgrading everything.

[don_crissti]

Ok then... try installing it in terminal as I said and tell us the error you get there... so that we know at least where to start from...
And thanks for all your effort !

[raveyd]

I reinstalled minime Gnome 2008, did all upgrades (including mklivecd and module-init-tools), installed a couple of new packages and remastered again.

This time, everything works even if I install GRUB with graphical menu - which is great news. No crash at the bootloader installation!!

I noticed when I did the upgrades a lot of DrakX stuff was upgraded - have you guys updated something which has solved the issues?

So I have no idea what fixed my problems but something has worked.

I still need to use all-generic-ide and edit fstab and menu.lst to change my sda's to hda's.

[vampirefo1]

I reinstalled minime Gnome 2008, did all upgrades (including mklivecd and module-init-tools), installed a couple of new packages and remastered again.

This time, everything works even if I install GRUB with graphical menu - which is great news. No crash at the bootloader installation!!

I noticed when I did the upgrades a lot of DrakX stuff was upgraded - have you guys updated something which has solved the issues?

So I have no idea what fixed my problems but something has worked.

I still need to use all-generic-ide and edit fstab and menu.lst to change my sda's to hda's.

this is good, I don't have any problems with remaster, and now you don't either next thing we need to find out is what module you need to load so you don't have to use all-generic-ide.

[vampirefo1]

if you don't mind doing some testing.

open terminal as root

lspci |grep -i ata

post results here.

then

lsmod |grep -i sata

post results here.

[raveyd]

if you don't mind doing some testing.

open terminal as root

lspci |grep -i ata

post results here.

then

lsmod |grep -i sata

post results here.

lspci gives the following:

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03)

lsmod gave no output at all.

Sorry guys, I got a bit too excited about the remaster. Everything worked on the 2008 minime (as I said in my post), but when i reinstalled my 2007-Lite based remaster, I still can't remaster again and then install including the Graphical GRUB. Text-based GRUB still works fine though. And also, if after installing the text-based GRUB, I then boot up and go to PCC-Boot-Change the way the system boots, I can then install Graphical GRUB and it works OK. I'm confused.

[don_crissti]

raveyd, no offense there but old releases of PCLOS Gnome might have that bug that prevents you from installing graphical grub. As I already told you, you must first apply the fixes indicated in that thread in the announcement section (see thread about the 2008.1 release and my conversation with vampirefo about that)
Now, I can understand you are confused but if you insist on testing those old releases we will get confused too because we are not working with them anymore.
If you guys want to test then please use only these three releases: gnome remaster the latest, mini-gnome (currently at beta22 I will release a beta23 in a few days) and official MiniMe to compare and see if our stuff works just like the original.

Thanks !

[vampirefo1]

raveyd, no offense there but old releases of PCLOS Gnome might have that bug that prevents you from installing graphical grub. As I already told you, you must first apply the fixes indicated in that thread in the announcement section (see thread about the 2008.1 release and my conversation with vampirefo about that)
Now, I can understand you are confused but if you insist on testing those old releases we will get confused too because we are not working with them anymore.
If you guys want to test then please use only these three releases: gnome remaster the latest, mini-gnome (currently at beta22 I will release a beta23 in a few days) and official MiniMe to compare and see if our stuff works just like the original.

Thanks !

Sorry I assumed, and yes i know what assuming means. i thought he was using the latest version, I only have the latest version myself so can't help on older versions.


I will most likely only be using the mini-gnome on my desktop, but full gnome for my daughters laptop.

[don_crissti]

No need to be sorry man ! You did the right thing there trying to find out why a certain module is not loaded...
However, it is almost impossible for us to come up with a clear picture of what is currently going on if we receive feedback from people using the old ISOs. As I said use only the latest release and for comparison (in case that just doesn't work) refer to the original MiniMe.

[raveyd]

d_c, I have applied the fixes (the 2 rpms) in that thread to Gnome 2007 Lite, and still I can't install Graphical Grub with my remaster after installing all upgrades.

Surely if I have applied the fixes, and upgraded everything, what I have should be "the same" as a 2008 iso in terms of functionality??

Just thought the info about GRUB text installer working but GRUB graphical installer not working may be useful. Maybe developers board is not the correct place for the discussion - in which case I'm happy to move it to the right place in the forums - I suspect there must be other people still having the same problem.

for info, the reason I've gone back to my 2007 version is:
- I prefer the theme of the 2007 releases
- I don't need to mess about with all-generic-ide and editing all my sda's to hda's every time I reinstall - for some reason it just works correctly with the 2007 releases without any messing about. If that could be fixed, I'd re-upgrade myself to a 2008 version